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Thread Admin: AA-bob (3-0-0) Posted: 06/29/2009 at 16:21:23
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Thread Title: "(NICS) is requiring place of birth"

The following notice was provided by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Beginning June 29, 2009, the FBI Criminal Justice Information Services (CJIS) Division's National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) section is requiring that place of birth be provided for all FBI-initiated transactions. This will be a valuable and efficient addition to the NICS process for the following reasons:

- Currently, place of birth is a mandatory field on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) Form 4473 and is therefore readily available for inclusion in the NICS check. There are no additional information disclosures for the potential purchaser or data collection requirements for Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs).

- Being a name-based search, having additional data points such as the place of birth helps to increase the accuracy and efficiency of firearm eligibility determinations. Place of birth is either a mandatory or optional field for entry of records into all three of the databases that the NICS searches against: the Interstate Identification Index (III), the National Crime Information Center (NCIC), and the NICS Index.

This new requirement, to provide place of birth when initiating a NICS background check, will have minimal impact to the FFL. Currently, FFLs who contact the NICS Section directly, via one of the three Call Centers or NICS E-Check, are not required to provide the place of birth to initiate the NICS check. However, starting June 29, 2009, all FFLs who contact the NICS Section directly, via one of the three Call Centers or NICS E-Check, will be required to provide the place of birth when initiating a NICS check. If the place of birth is not provided, the check will not be processed.

FFLs who conduct business in a state in which there is a state-designated agency that conducts their firearm background checks currently may or may not be providing place of birth to initiate the check. If you are an FFL in a state that currently requires the place of birth be provided when initiating a firearm background check, you are required to continue to provide this piece of information.

If you are an FFL in a state where you contact a state-designated agency to conduct your firearm background checks and you are not required to submit the place of birth prior to initiating the check, you will be notified by your state-designated agency detailing when you will be required to provide the place of birth prior to initiating a firearm background check. Once you are notified by your state-designated agency that the place of birth is required to initiate a firearm background check, if you fail to provide the place of birth, the background check will not be processed.

If you have additional questions regarding the newly required place of birth information when initiating a NICS check, please fell free to contact NICS Customer Service at (877) 444-6427.

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Buyer: brainaxe(7-0-0) Post#1 - Posted: 06/30/2009 at 06:19:38

Maybe someone can trick obama into buy a gun. Then he will perjure himself as to "Place of Birth". Not that perjury has ever stopped a Democrat president!

Seller: Hartwell Gun(1125-1-2) Post#2 - Posted: 06/30/2009 at 08:07:02

I don't fully understand the post-I contact NICS direct and have been giving the applicants State of birth forever when i call in a check.Possibally we are talking that they are now interested in "city and state" not only just the "state" as there were before???

Seller: Petesguns(1017-0-0) Post#3 - Posted: 06/30/2009 at 09:40:38

Hart, my question as well. We already are asked state of birth. Perhaps it is the addition of the town as well. We will soon find out!

Former Seller: Yone(507-0-2) Post#4 - Posted: 06/30/2009 at 10:01:32

Pete---Here in Utah we have always been asked City & State of birth.. Tks

Seller: Hartwell Gun(1126-1-2) Post#5 - Posted: 06/30/2009 at 10:04:10

Yone-does the state of UT do their own checks or do they you go NICS direct????

Former Seller: Yone(507-0-2) Post#6 - Posted: 06/30/2009 at 11:07:44

Hartwell--Utah does its own checks. Takes less than 60 seconds and costs 7.50. No check is required if they have a concealed permit which now consists of about half our sales.

Seller: Hartwell Gun(1126-1-2) Post#7 - Posted: 06/30/2009 at 11:41:27

Yone-GA dealers do NICS direct and they always asked for the state if birth only,now from what i gather here it will be probably city and state after the 29th.I find out tomorrow,for sure,when i call one in.

Seller: dog(51-0-0) Post#8 - Posted: 06/30/2009 at 12:51:40

Here in Houston I always had to give city and state

Not easy to fit Minneapolis Minnesota in the little space

Seller: axolotl(347-0-0) Post#9 - Posted: 06/30/2009 at 15:01:36

Dog; where about in Mpls you from. i Was born and raise in Minn and lived in so. mpls for years and was a member of the Minn. Weapons Collectors fo years before moving here to deep east Texas. axolotl

Seller: dog(51-0-0) Post#10 - Posted: 06/30/2009 at 16:05:47

South Minneapolis South high 1962 U of M 1967 and member of Minn weapons collectors Moved to Hou. In 1977. Getting ready to move to New Mex hopefully next spring. Do not like Lutfisk or green chilies but am found of good tequila We more then likley ran into each other

Cheers, Larry G

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